I had the pleasure of speaking with a variety of people especially a few when it came down to what is happening within United States. I don't claim to know it all as after watching some replays of everything that is happening within America I have never seen it where things have gone so far by way of the GOP. As I am a dual citizen, I do find that there is a stalemate right now economically. From living within both lands I have talked with several people with regards to what is happening. I think there is a time whereby there does come a concern. Economically especially. Many within America seem to be disappointed with the entire government. We can say why but really when it comes down to it where do we render the answer. It's convenient not recognize that this can't continue. Please do take note that I am not anti American in any manner. If we could go back in time it would be great but where do we go from here? It seems that there is a return of two political parties that will stalemate the entire economy of a great country.
If we have another 8 years of a continued situation whereby there is dissension within, there will be a shift. And it will not get better in my own opinion. Please don't get me wrong but right around that corner as China is pretty much the entire banking system from which the economy exists. There is that good old say of where there is a will there is a way. Is it the mindset within United States or is it the GOP?
My hopes are that there can be some unity that starts to take place yet I ponder if it shall. You would think that after the last eight years now is the time. Yet seemingly it's an area that is really not being recognized as much as it should and at the same time. I always have had a very positive attitude with regards to Unites States. It's my second home. Yet when I see all that is going on I truly see it from two vantages. Are we heading for a shift by way of two parties that will never work together or is there still that opportunity? I myself have been very concerned with this as like each one of us you have an account and if you keep drawing from it - better yet drawing from another semi super power to put it mildly you end up holding the wrong end of the stick. I guess I am an idealist with this but the reality from what I can see is right now a stalemate is taking place. Yet we ignore it. And when something is left all too long sooner than later it does catch up. I really at this point don't know what the solution is I never have claimed to know it all and I know this word called "change" has now become a word that most despise but if you ask me, there has to be some form of changes in which things start to progress again.
Yet will it happen? I certainly hope so...at the moment the debt owed to China is $800 billion dollars approximately.
To every situation there is always a solution...I do believe there is one within all of this.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe America owed China a whooping $800 billion dollars. Or i read too fast i missed some words in between ...
ReplyDeleteBush borrowed the money to pay for his war. He didn't raise taxes on the rich to pay for it, he lowered taxes on the top 2%. Lowering taxes during a time of war was unprecedented and goes against common sense. Anyway, to fund his war he borrowed the money from China. I don't know the exact figure, but we owe China in the neighborhood of a trillion (1,000,000,000,000) bucks. (I wrote that out because in the UK and possibly other countries, a billion has less zero's than ours does, and it follows that a trillion would too.)
ReplyDeleteThe PRC (Peoples Republic of China) is an oppressive regime. The leaders are not very nice people. And yet we buy all our steel from them, and much of everything else. (I went to buy a can of smoked oysters the other day, and both Bumblebee and Reese's brands said in the fine print "A product of China." ) Were we to have a war with China, we'd have to ask them very politely if they could please sell us lots of steel so we could build enough battleships to fight them.
Sorry, I'm off topic.
The division between the Republicans and Democrats existing now has been fomented by many causes.
The problem seems to be that the current batch of Republicans is owned, lock, stock and barrel by corporations. Unimaginably huge multi-national corporations driven solely by corporate greed.
It takes a kings ransom to run an election campaign these days, and the candidates depend on the corporations for the cash to run them. After that, they are beholden to them. Thus, they're marching in lock-step against many much needed reforms.
The only way out of this quagmire is a change in the way elections are run and funded.
The problem is, who's going to enact the changes? Congress?
Still, there is always hope. I'm a long-term optimist and a short term cynic, I suppose. I hope and think things will change for the better, given time. That time may not come until our Great Great Grandchildren are dead and buried, but I think it will come eventually.
If my memory serves me right the shift started when the GOP regained control in the 90s and then it got worse when the Democrats regained control in 2004. And has got progressive worse. So both parties are fractured as far as I am concerned. Most of them do not care about the citizens but what works for them and it probably is not going to change because too many Democrats think they are smarter and and think all GOP are dumber than a box of rocks. The GOP think all Democrats are socialists and snobs. The fact is both sides are wrong and both sides are corrupt.
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ReplyDeletethese issues go on and on , but for how much longer none of us know this.
grand old party
ReplyDeleteGOP is the nickname for the Republican Party.
It stands for "Grand Old Party," the party nickname.
The first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln. After the Civil War, the upstart Republicans were perceived as the party that won the war. The Republicans who were firmly fixed into the Federal Government were ironically dubbed the "Gallant Old Party," which soon became known as the "Grand Old Party," which was then shortened to the "GOP." Republicans are conservative, favoring reducing the size and role of the government. They support less government control over the economic rights of individuals and corporations. This ideology is most recognized as that of Republican President Ronald Reagan.
I must have had the wrong figure as I was looking for it but needless to say it's too much if you ask me. And what do we do before it get to be at a point where it can never be paid back? I think you know what I mean.
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China is oppressive yet at the turn of the new millennium they did make changes within an extent that allowed people to start their own business and some that came out of university actually opted within a dictatorship came a host of entrepreneurs that have truly done tremendously well. While at the same time China is a dictatorship the US has borrowed within the trillions as you say. I wish that never would have happened to tell you the truth there were other countries and other means. But...
I would opt to make some changes with this electoral way. If I had my choice I would change it whereby there is a limitation on time - one year at the most and as well that there is a limit to funding that one can get to run. As you know as well as I that there are lobbyist that pay and I am not comparing Canada but within Canada to campaign in Canada you can not accept funds nor and the term and duration of a campaign is only six months. (Not saying that Canada has an ideal system but Canada has not debt that they owe to other countries).
I think this is where the power of the people do make the changes. America was always based on representation. So within this representation I really feel that there is a mix of two things. The majority of people don't understand all that is going on except by way of what they hear on television which is not usually the complete truth. And there is a President that is elected that might be so smart that so often he is confused by the people. Yet it's obvious to see that the old regime of the Republicans are never going to work with this man or his administration.
The constitution can always be amended as right now just maybe the President is doing many things now that are perhaps seen as socialistic - yet it might be just for the term so that the entire system within America can re stimulate.
The question comes to be do we stimulate or do we stay in a stalemate? Right now America is within an economic lock up. And one has to look at this as a long term transition, but you would think that there needs to be a beginning to it. As if there isn't - I believe that there will be a large shift that as proud as Americans are (not knocking down Americans as I am a dual) -------> they have to get off this proud thing and really face up to what is happening. I have yet to see it and most all countries look from afar and realize it as well. We don't wish for America to go down as it's a great country that has so much that all wish to see. I guess we all don't wish to loose the home of this "land and free". Yet we already have. My post was in how we get it back.
Jo - it means Government in Power...
ReplyDeleteRosie it's different there in England you are not facing the debt load. England and all of us are facing economic problems due to the capitalistic manner of lending that was done to artificially inflate the American economy by the Bush administration - but even though Tony Blair made mistakes - he did not put your country into an economic situation like this. Actually most all industrialized countries are doing ok. But America really is within a situation. I have wanted to write this for weeks now but I did not want to offend anyone.
ReplyDeleteLOL Heidi.
ReplyDeleteMaritess I was wrong with my numbers as it's more much more.
ReplyDeleteactually if you look closely they are all hurting badly all govenment need money all the time GB to-just ask Bill and he can sing you a song-here in Germany to -
ReplyDeletebut we must not lose faith-germany ran an exorbident defficit in the erly 80's and we had almost 20% unemployment and hey the country survived-and after all during the fat years we all benefited so now I guess it is a litttle pay back time-
I'm speechless. I really can't believe America is such dependent to China. All along i thought America is a rich country ... how come it did happened Jack. Could you research it further ... i am short of knowledge with regards to this kind of issues ... many thanks.
ReplyDeleteThis was all in the making and slowly progressed but, it peeked and went way out there Tee during the term of the eight years of Bush and Cheney. And no one knew what they were doing, they got off doing worse things than Nixon when he was impeached.
ReplyDeleteThere will always be corruption to some extent in any government Tee. However this one has gone much too far. Do we allow Obama to do what he wishes or do we sit back and look for another president in hopes that they are going to do it better? I guess this come to be a matter of choice and letting go of traditions within political party bias as I have never looked at any given leader by way of party, but in what they do. No leader had been perfect in any country but after the address I found that the republicans stages a "mini address" with there own new gent that is a liberal republican. But is he any better than Obama really? It seems to me that Obama is trying his best. He is bringing back troops from Iraq which is long overdo. Anyone in that position right now would have an awfully hard time regardless of whom they are.
a lot happened stars because people always want cheaper goods so china offered it and business went for it-and here are the results but all this didn't just start now it started in the late 60's then went strong in the 70's when our cotton industry went floating then wool then steel-
ReplyDeleteand china uses slave labor in their factories and they also use prisoners to produce -and even if china lets its people earn a little living it is still a very totalitarian regime in every way shape and form-when you go there and visit you must get a visa and you are escorted all over-still
it means grand old party because that was the republican party was the oldest party -
ReplyDeleteRight now your economy is on the upswing, I read about it yesterday it's a moderate economic upturn but during these times that is good. Hiedi who is Bill?
ReplyDeleteWell I think for a long time America really has never faced the facts I have a best friend of mine that is like a brother too me that lost his job and now if he didnt have his sister he would be living on the streets literally. And he comes from a upper class background.
ReplyDeleteyou know our friend bill he is from London and does lots of writes very good ones he was an enginer and is a wonderful poet writter and used to have a photography studio he is really great -and he is 80yrs, old so he has lots of knowledge especially on GB
ReplyDeleteYeah we always were that way even with latin america....most all clothes would say "made in America" but while I was living there my cousin in law at the time came back from Colombia and showed me how it's done. It was an eye opener to me. As far as China - most all countries have commodities from them. I don't think we shouldn't at this point. If we sanction China - China will respond back with power. I know they are corrupt Heidi but my concern is getting the American economy started back on some track...as it looks like everything is ok. But it's not and as you know most of my friends here or a good majority are from the USA.
ReplyDeleteah yeah i got it well fishred. I remember how they produce cheaper goods, much cheaper than the original ones, its because they are using unfair labor practices, and this helped them to reach what they are in now, a rich country to beckon with. Oh my, i am amazed.
ReplyDeleteIn no manner is this wrote for the sake of sensationalism - nor to defame the USA. I have too many friends there as well as I have wished to write on this for some time now. We tend to think within convenience. As right now each and every day there are people within the US going bankrupt. And within this word called proud, some within the American culture take it the wrong way. But it's time to really understand that the very freedoms that America has always enjoyed are nearing a time in which they will be lost. Within most of our lifetimes if we don't face up to what really is happening. As China is sitting there and just waiting. I don't think any country would like to regress any more than what it is. A super power shifting to being closer to a 3rd world nation.hmmm. Something to think about I guess.
ReplyDeleteIf we want our economy back we also need to get our industry back to america no industry no jobs simple as that and as long as hourly wages are so high here and that is also the problem here in Europe contracts go to country's that have low hr. wages - so it is not just an american problem-we also are in a tecjnology age now and we haven't educated our populus fast enough for this new world-yes
ReplyDeleteyes the economy is doing a whole lot better and it will keep doing if for the only reason is that is what economys do ebe and flow-
also like I said befor during the fat years to many people never saved a peney they thought the good times would last forever and had nothing put away not even a few months rent so-
americans need to put away their terrible negativeness they have that more than anything stands in their way-
china isn't stupid and it needs us like we need them we buy their products if they don't sell them to us who willl buy them? China doesn't scare me in that way at all-
china has never attacked another forgein power since they attacked the Japanese over 200yrs. ago-
No America is not going to loose its so called freedom-if there is one thing you can count on with America is if you give them a comon enemy they will unite-also america has enough military power and remember most other countries wouldn't want to be under the Chinese Dragon either-
ReplyDeleteAmerica does a lot of dumb things it is never or ever has it been a third world countries-in all things we are still first -
It is very frustrating Jack.
ReplyDeleteOne problem is that it is difficult to pass anything in the Senate unless you have 60 Votes---one Senator can "filibuster" anything by simply doing a roll-call and seeing if this "super majority in the 100 seat Upper house supports this. I don';t think much will change as far as domestic programs until this rule--that has been around since 1975--is amended.
Heres what I dont understand.... the US is against Iran cause they see Ahmedinejad's power as Oppressive Regime; They invaded Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein who was oppressive to his people; They invade Afghanistan to remove the Taliban which is Oppressive to its People but they wont touch China by the same rule? So in my opinion, it has nothing to do with Oppressive regimes or Dictators or a Communist governance or the fact that they dont support Democracy.. it has to do with Economics. Its all about MONEY.. and when it comes to ONLY that, everything Good goes out the window. Maybe a naive take, but that is the crux. Patchwork solutions dont work, we have to get to the core of the matter. It doesnt matter which party comes into Power, things wont change unless there is a revamp of what kind of lens we see our world through.
ReplyDeleteYeah it's a stalemate Doug. I hope for change as at the ending of the fiscal year 2009 there was $12 trillion debt. When you have one country in particular that you owe over two trillion dollars the one very big risk within all of this is when lenders make that choice to cease lending or if they have the ability to influence another countries own policies.
ReplyDeleteIt is about economics. The invasion to Iraq has and is known by many to be a situation where it never really needed to take place. Most all countries did go into Afghanistan in haste after 9/11. Then there was a desire and agenda to go into Iraq that was oil based and several countries opted out. As there was no immediate threat and everyone knew that. Recently in england there have been government sessions on it all with the former administration. However that is the past - never would America or a nation take on China now. I am not knocking USA please note but literally China is far too big now, but we never hear this. However they do have influence over America. Rashmi I do believe we have to look at things by way of a new lens - United States owes the greatest amount of money within the industrialized world. And as I mentioned to Doug they do have influence, if you bank on another's money you they will have influence over you. I ponder if the both parties within the USA really understand this. As I don't know a nation that would carry on this way. As far as Iran, the leader there really has no power, and the country is monitored by way of our defence systems.
ReplyDeleteBut hasn't America right now fell into a depression that economically is caused by. Yes and whom is there major lender. America has always worked within alliances in most all things that they have done - fact. Yet it's the greatest country but we all have our own thoughts and I am so tired of watching these politics that are taking place.. to be honest. It's not the people, but the parties and the manner of the system...it got things to where they are now. Is now good. No...economically it's not.
ReplyDeleteYour point? LOL I just has some send me a PM asking me if I was an alchoholic as I wrote about acceptance is the key....:)
ReplyDeleteWe have a saying back home.. "If you are poor, its better to eat fodder(usually the husk and bran of the rice) than to borrow rice from your neighbour." That isnt to say that neighbours dont help out, but that once you get into a debt then you will be weighed down by it.
ReplyDeleteWe have a saying back home.. "If you are poor, its better to eat fodder(usually the husk and bran of the rice) than to borrow rice from your neighbour." That isnt to say that neighbours dont help out, but that once you get into a debt then you will be weighed down by it.
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ReplyDeleteThis is the only solution--for each of us to change from within, to become good, even if that sounds naive and Utopian. If we decide to do so, we can and that will change the world, politics, the system will fade away. This is the main gist of the message given in Arès in 1974 and 1977. The Creator knows humanity is heading towards a major crisis.
ReplyDeleteI do think that within societies it is within the people. Societies are based on the each and every individual as you have said DJ. However I am not sure that faith cures or resolves the imperfections of mankind. Yet as imperfect beings we look at something in a perspective that may have a validity whereby there is a solution.
ReplyDelete*Just got back and have the payout from my insurance :) Yes!
Talking with an internet friend who immigrated from Brazil about how the USA has imploded, and thus it is a strange time indeed to immigrate. As she put it, "Yes. You can hardly tell the US from Brazil these days," to which I answered, "Yep. And yet years ago when I tried to explain on orkut how bad off we were, the international community basically said, "Kande, you're full of shit. The US is a rich country." I wrote, "No, we've become a banana republic...without the bananas."
ReplyDeleteIt is very frustrating jack.. Nobodies job is secure every company is down sizing ..But you can't live in fear
ReplyDeleteI know I spoke to a good good friend by in Virginia the other day and we really had a talk with regards to this. I don't write much on
ReplyDeletepolitics but this was more of a concern as to where we are going. Yet I must admit I don't often write on this as I find that it's a very touchy
subject Jules.
It's a transitional situation right now Feloni. I think and I hope.
ReplyDeleteIt is a touchy subject ...Because people are scared and have no control over the things that are happening...But as bad as things are here....they are worse in other places ...Unless you have traveled to a 3rd world country you have no idea how good we have things....( just my own personal opinion)
ReplyDeleteI know Jules, I just hope there is not a shift and that things don't fall further down as we really can't afford that.
ReplyDeleteMe too Jack...Me too...Have a good night Jack...
ReplyDeleteIt shall work out, the foundation of what we enjoy is hopefully not going to shift and on that note good night Jules.
ReplyDeleteChina does carry a lot of American debt and that worries me, Jack.
ReplyDeleteOn the otherhand, The USA is like Canada--we have some of the best minds in the world from all over the planet. We will get through this crisis I feel, all things being equal. We may not be Number One anymore, but why does that matter if we are stronger as a nation for having solved some of these problems over the long haul.
glad at least one other person feels this way doug-
ReplyDeleteSame here Heidi.
ReplyDeleteI love the in dependant writes each country will have the pros and cons within it there is not on society/country that does not have problems Doug. I just felt like writing this after reading yours and Mike's pages. I spoke with Mike over the weekend and we really had a very good substantial talk on all of this. I think all to often we neglect the areas that give us our very own rights. So who knows what will happen within the next 8 years. I do know that there are still companies that are paying in the millions for a commercial for this weekends Superbowl....so there is money at hand. Yet the average person maybe just maybe Obama has place in some regulations for the interm so that America can get back to a status whereby they don't owe so many other countries. Just a thought. As I think he is a very misunderstood man. Yet I like his thoughts as well as his ideas. Some may have been too quick. Some have been wrong. But I truly believe that you have alliances globally but most especially internally > by way of Democrats and Republicans.
ReplyDeleteA wonderful and thought-provoking blog! I agree with you 100%, there has to be some form of "change" for things to progress. The problem is though, that neither side seems to be willing to check their egos at the door, and make room for negotiation and compromise.
ReplyDeleteThe Democratic view is "we stake out a position, and you (Republicans) agree with it," and that's bipartisanship. Or "we won, do it my way." Conversely, the Republican party is the party of "NO." They (Republicans) seem to think that the word "Conservative" means conserve what is there, don't change it. The Republicans need to move beyond "just say no to everything," and work towards the common good for all Americans.
With that said, I voted for Obama because of the change he promised. Thus far, it's just been the same old meaningless rhetoric, with no action. Millions of people are suffering from unemployment, underemployment, foreclosures, shrinking retirement funds, and unable to feed their families. In Obama's State of the Union address last week, instead of speaking with specificity about how he plans to "fix" things, he spent 90 minutes on the offensive, blaming everything on the past 8 years prior to his taking office. Frankly, he appeared combative......reaching across the isle to both parties, not with an open hand, but with a closed fist! Once again, the "do it my way" mindset!
Personally, I now believe that Obama is in way over his head, and he needs to stop blaming everything on the prior administration, and focus on today, and the future! In order for this country to recover, and move forward, the "blame game" has to stop, and that means from the right, the left, and center!
Funny title. Proud? That's for sure, about what I'd like to know.
ReplyDeleteFree? We're getting there by tiny increments. At least now we don't have a Selective Slavery System; rather we force people into the military financially.
In 1969 I visited Asia. I had worked my way through colleges/universities on women's wages. Imagine my surprise to not see ONE beggar. The streets were clean from Japan to Thailand. I had certainly been fed a lot of hooie about "how poor Asia was"! Wonderful and REAL food. In Japan, no faucets in the restrooms; they were already using electric eyes to turn on the water. We caught up with them about 20 years later, and even now, it's unusual. No obesity. Many people speaking English, yet the only "foreign language" I'd ever had was Hindi, and that only because it was a graduation requirement.
Then imagine my surprise when I learned in Thailand...THAILAND in 1969...that higher education was FREE.
What the US has (pride?) is the land ripped off from Native Americans, mostly by way of biological genocide. That is being swiftly depleted due to the ratio of population to resources, thanks mainly to immigration...and by agribiz, which is buying farmers out who can't compete. Hey! Didn't we need another corporate entity?
And free? That's "education" in the US as provided by rich parents. It's no longer accessible to the middle-class workers. And you have to wonder if it IS education anymore. After all, wasn't Bush a Yalie? And didn't he also attend Harvard? But if anyone thinks those schools were lame to have allowed this mediocre scholar to continue in them, you people outside the US should see our high schools! Unbelievable!
I suspect you are right. After all, Obama is very well educated and also endowed with native intelligence. Surely he'll patch us up!
ReplyDeleteJust getting in here. I do think that the President does have to relinquish his spirit as well as forget about doing so much all within such a fast period. He has been defensive yet I think that he really needs to render back what his and the society wish as he can only fix things by way of not being defensive but now starting to lead maybe within a different way. He was over his head when he walked into office, but this is where if, if - both parties could work together just for a while rather than focus on an election that is two years from now. Then perhaps there is a way.
ReplyDeleteHe literally is a tremendous and smart man. Yet he has to render a good team. As any leader can not do it only on there own. Here in Canada we have the same politics that go on with our Prime Minister right now. But as time has gone on he has come to be more mature and regardless what the other party leaders say he is convicted in his own manner. But they are two different democratic systems...yet I was watching on CNN last night on how the Parliamentary system was being discussed. Prime Minister Harper is in my opinion matured to being one that really does take some things into consideration but he does not allow them to effect his choices for the most part Maryanne. Canada has the same type of government as within England as Canada evolved from Britain as well as Paris, while America revolted to become it's own - so there is a little bit of a difference in how things are done yet for the most part Canada is really a blend of American government as time goes on while maintaining the traditional way of government that come by way of Britain.
Proud has always been if you understand the culture the way of United States it is deep rooted within the very essence of United States since the Boston Tea Party or even before that. Proud is not necessarily a negative as it really is the manner in which the society of America exists. Within proud there are many things that do come from it. But the politic of proud might be much different in comparison to the people that reside within United States. Each country has various areas like "mini countries" from within a nation.
ReplyDeleteAsia would be something to see. Japan I am familiar with but I have never been there. Yet Japan's economy came back only due to United States funding there return after WW2. Thailand would be fascinating to say the least I really don't know much about the country but a system of education that is free - much like Argentina and several others would be very nice needless to say. As far as the Native Aboriginal people there is no country that has truly treated them as they should have been treated. However do we cater to one group within any country? I know that we have here in Canada and I am not anti Aboriginal/Native American but literally within Canada they do have a entire free ride with education. In some provinces when one turned the age of 18 they were given a federal gift of money as there reserves and land were within areas that held Oil and Natural Gas. Yet, I feel that at this time within the world we really can't go back in time but we can respect it. But to continually cater to it. I am not too sure on that to be honest. But pride within every country that held natives did this. It's part of our history in what we did in every country where Natives/Aboriginals exist. So that is history for most all countries as they were the first on the land yet there was a ripp off as you put it. Yet can we really go back or go forward?
Yes for years within America it's been a what is called a capitalistic system. The rich have more privy to things but that exists in most every country that I can think of with the exception to only a few. America will and shall return I would like to say. Why would so many people wish to immigrate to United States? It's the dream...that great American dream and within it - it can come back. The Bush family is much the same as the Kennedy family as far as the money that they have and well take a look at Georges' brother Jeb I think his name is and you will find a very smart decent man. George went to Harvard - yet it does not mean that he learned anything. Just my two cents :)
Just a short comment: If the original people who came over here, primarily from England, hadn't taken over the land from the Native Americans, some other European country surely would have.
ReplyDeleteAn excellent read (which won the Pulitzer Prize) on this and other fascinating & related topics is "Guns, Germs, and Steel" by Jarod Diamond.
I'd highly recommend it to anyone and everyone.
I think its quite the opposite.. Fact is, someone like him Lead this country not for one term but TWO that says a lot for what hes learned and his IQ(which has been the butt of many a joke). So I wonder, does that reflect his Intelligence or the Intelligence of the ones who voted him into office?
ReplyDeleteWould be interesting to read. England actually took over many countries. Actually this is interesting as it's a topic onto itself would be interesting to find this link.
ReplyDeleteAmerica and Canada on this side of the pond were both taken over by England. Canada retained it's ties after taking over the one french colony yet we acknowledge Quebec as a "nation" within our country. Yet we all blend.
Within Latin America it was originally taken over by the Spanish... The main thing that I find that would be interesting is how we view things within a mutuality
within global views. As history does certainly teach us something yet sometimes history does repeat itself as well.
Will look for this link and thanks
amrtica still has the best possible choices of where to go to school if you qualify and no you DO NOT NEED TO BE RICH to get your children a good education-my kids went UC Berkley and Santa Cruz and both got into Stanford and Yale but my hubby and I agreed you get a bettr education at UC-and we were not rich people-but these schools do not cost the world like the privates-and also in americ there are very good jr. colleges whicch are basicly free to-
ReplyDeletethe american dream never went anywhere we must all remember even though there are say 15-20% unemployment that means 80% have jobs and good ones-so-
the Bush family are not all dumb and the Kenedy's family are also very bright -
Bush was n embarasment to his family ad he was a mams boy so they paid his way by building libraries and wings to the schools he went to-
No comment Rashmi :)
ReplyDeleteI don't believe that all the best Universities or the education systems are only within the USA Heidi. I do believe that there are far more areas that one can study in. It all depends on what one is studying. I do agree with you that there are some of the best yet the means and way to get into university it's very expensive for the top 10.
ReplyDeleteThere are tremendous Universities within several countries it all depends on what a student wishes to study yet right now the average middle class person cannot afford to go to these schools unless they have a scholarship or come from a very high class family. I found that to be the case when my best friend from NY was going to University. But as you say the ones that do come out of these schools like Berkley or Stanford are very fortunate as they are the best of the best. Yet the same applies for ones that come out of Oxford, Cambridge, Queens and so many others...
I think George was the wrong pick by his father. I am still waiting to see when he has his own presidential library. There has to be a place where you can buy pretzels and beer. :) Or maybe that is up in the attic.
Berkley is not private so its costs are a 1/4 of Stanford and other private schools-
ReplyDeletenothing wrong with the British schools but for americans very expensive -germany also has good schools but again they cost->I know that in medicine most european docs try to get a few years in at an american medical school or training hospital so what does that say-
It says, "I did know that" :) But then why do American doctors come to Canada for training? Not to the same extent mind you but they do. As well, there are many people that I have met that are obtaining great positions from other schools in other countries - there is a cost but every country has a different means and ways. My thought on this is that America is very costly when you take all into consideration.
ReplyDeleteBut I don't want to compare Canada's education system to Americas, I remember from experience on how much it cost myself and some of the people I knew to go to university. As there should be a means and ways by which all have the chance to get a good education. You know I don't hate the USA. I guess it's all within a share of thoughts when I logged on here I never expected this to go on as it has but I must admit I do enjoy this as it's all a variety of thoughts with hugs along with it.
I know you don't dislike america nad we are discussing -America overall still has the best afordable education in the world except for communist and very socialist systems that pay for everything-but even they are broke now-
ReplyDeleteLots of americans go to canada when they can't qualify for a med school in the USA that has always been so-
also like you said if you can't sind your program you can go up or over -
I live in a semi socialized democracy. Yes I did say that I don't know how this went into the direction of education. However it's all good. Here is a thought....does the average person in United States understand as much of there nation as other nations? Just a thought.
ReplyDeletedepends on the person but for the most all people are the same in that direction
ReplyDeleteI think as time goes on we are beginning to understand more of each other's countries, but that is just my opinion.
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"Does the average person in the US understand as much about his/her nation as s/he understands about other nations?"
I was in the teaching racket for a long time, and previous to that was a professional student for decades. Sadly, the average person in the US as observed by myself understands MUCH less about the US than s/he understands about other nations AND s/he also has little idea of his/her own country, because that would necessitate comparisons, of which the average US citizen is incapable. Part of the problem is that we are geographically isolated from Europe and other advanced nations with the exception of Canada, and Canadians are more cordial to us than we deserve. The other, much more important reason we're clueless is because education in the US is a joke. We are saturated with drugs and gizmos (cell phones and other communication devices) and lack of respect for learning.
I don't mean lack of respect for the learned. I mean lack of respect for the process of learning, by which our youth could improve themSELVES.
It's rather pitiful.
I certainly hope you're right! And I expect that you are...
ReplyDeleteYes, I see that. Its already there even among pre-schoolers(thats the field close to my sense of knowledge). Teachers have to Make LEARNING Fun(a totally alien concept to me) to get the kids to learn...While Learning is fun, the process of learning is not always fun, its a lot of dedicated effort, honing of thinking and reasoning skills, discipline and respect for Knowledge. This idea has to start for the child at Home, and I dont see that happening often enough.
ReplyDeleteNot that I don't agree with you on this, given the nature of primates.
ReplyDeleteI also recommend Guns, Germs, and Steel. And, if it's available to you, see J Diamond lecture! It's beautiful all the way through: the pacing, the grammar, the sentence structure, the information load, all of it ex tempore!. A spectacle!
Yes, indeed he learned something. He learned that he was privileged and that he could continue being so just by cheating his way through. Through, for example, college, through the military, through various candidacies. It's not much to admire, and it has NOTHING to do with intelligence, and much LESS to do with ethics. I've seen a lot of frat rat types rise "to the top" (We're talking $ here...) via their connections and their blathering, unearned self-esteem.
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Well, I do...just not in every instance. I hate how we have ravaged other countries. I hate how people from the USA traveling abroad expect all others to admire them.
ReplyDeleteThe saddest reason I hate the US is that it threw away its children. My father died when I was thirteen, yet I was able to work my way through Berkeley. Sure I worked full time, and I went to school full time too; after all, women's wages weren't much in those days...but it was POSSIBLE.
Now it's not. My kids did the same thing (working full time while going to school) but they never got a degree, no matter how hard they worked, and despite the fact that all of them were what's called "gifted". They were discarded so rich kids with lesser abilities could prosper, and I don't mean "prosper" in the sense of money, but rather in the sense of being able to make whatever decisions ethical, smart kids make. The US political system made it possible to rip off an entire generation of decent kids so that our soldiers could invade other countries.
I did a study on how much war the US has been involved with, and it turns out that the US, since its inception, has been at war almost 1/2 of its life as a country. We kill our kids or we discard their abilities.
Now we're in a stage of plummeting: Damn, but we deserve it! But maybe Obama can pull us out of it; if he fails, it won't be for lack of trying!
I think that illusion has now been replaced by the reality that was seen in the Iraq invasion. Not everyone really wants another guest to live in their home indefinitely even if the guest came to stay with the intention to Help.
ReplyDeletePoint taken! As for me, I draw the line when the "guest" enters my home armed.
ReplyDeleteThis blog is longer than Obama's health care plan.
ReplyDeletePlease pass on the link...
ReplyDeleteI just logged on and yeah this one has gone a bit longer than most :)
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