Ok I have seen where there are many writes on health care. Most would have no clue unless they saw the system in action here within Canada, and I have seen it within America while I lived there and carried my health insurance by way of Cigna. I still have my card to this very day for memorabilia. Yet this is not the reason for this writing. What we have within Canada is semi socialized medicine but I am really not into these unions that do exist - sorry folks within the medical here I have seen by way of family more people in positions where they get to a point and they don't honour that very area of what a medical practitioner takes as an oath, I will never forget going up to see my father while he was within the Intensive Care Unit and this was back some four years ago before I left to Edmonton, at that time I walked down the hall on the third floor to find two young nurses doing all the work while the other three that had over 20 years experience were sitting on there ass. Now I was up there for four hours that night and I did talk to this one nurse and she really did say how it is. I am not into this seniority based union. I always thought if you went private and placed a administrative team in place for a week to review the documented charts over the past month - I wonder how many would get the pink slip. Ironically a strike happened again while I was in Edmonton, and the leader of this province, imported nurses from the Philippines. Now I have to say they had it coming to them and they might again. As I have my therapy off today and so I have been up since 5am enjoying several things at the same time, I think I am bipolar as there is that morning side to me and then there is that more serious side in the evening. But then again we all are a little bipolar if you ask me.
So I do wish to come back to a few things but at the same time I really am not one for unions. Within what I have seen within the infrastructure of Unions within the medical system here, I find that every year they will strike for some reason. And meanwhile, the nurses that is and all the people other than doctors will hold this strike. The way I see it is that the non essential personnel should only be the ones that go on strike. This has gone on for so long and I wonder what Tommy Douglas would think all about it. Yet for me it's nice at this time to just enjoy a morning as such as there is a time to take that break as it's been busy to say the least or maybe I just am rebuilding my endurance. But I didn't choose breach my choices in doing what has been set up for me. As well, I don't think that the department of Physical Therapy had either...there is always a few that rumble things up and usually they are the heads of the unions - as there has to be something they ask for or they would not have no purpose.
Things that make ya go Hmm.
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ReplyDeleteI don't understand what makes them leave their work and protest, for what reasons ... are they still demanding a higher pay, all i know is that ~ nurses and doctors over there are recieving high salaries compared to out nurses and doctors here. What makes them do that ... yep, they should have a valid reasons to do it or else, their strikes would have no purpose at all.
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I am not uually for unions but first my dad was in the bricklayers union for over 50yrs. and when he retired he got a wonderful pension and his health care was great-
ReplyDeletenow for medical personal -if you only knew how little they get paid it is really sad they do all the work and get very little recognition and low pay-if they didn't have their unions they would be at minumom wage sad to say-doctors get good pay but NURSING personal DO NOT and that is country wide-
btw ,,yes this ,is True ,,what Heidi ...says ...
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with starfish....
ReplyDeleteThere are a host of reasons but some of them are very unreasonable if you ask me as within Canada there is Alberta which carries the largest deficit in Canada - yet they increased there budget within the medical field, whereas here we are the only province within Canada that has a surplus going on within the country up here. Yet we still don't fund within the areas but we build and build more medical buildings. Capital is fine but to finance unionized workers for more pay seems to me to be a contradiction - especially within these times.
ReplyDeleteIt's the same here as doctors do get paid much more and if we as there is a higher demand for doctors the new wave of thought that is coming about is that nurses will be paid more as well as pharmacists as seemingly they system needs more doctors - yet some of the requests that are within this are ridiculous to be honest. But seeming the government always caves. Yet I believe in that oath - within it one never walks away on the job. Especially within this area.
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ReplyDeleteYes the areas of unions I do believe in however I don't believe that within a medical area that each and every year there should be new demands on the table just for the sake of obtaining more. Nor do I believe in the ones that sit and on the seniority list and look forward to more pay just due to the amount of years they have put in. This is where a social system does have it's mistakes and where in other provinces of Canada (like different states) there are both private and public medical systems.. Maybe it's time for that change. Medicare came from this province. The very regulated system was introduced here many years ago but a Prime Minister named Tommy Douglas. So maybe now like other countries and other provinces within Canada - this province should start to make a transition of a two tier system. As all others have already.
ReplyDeleteBut the feeling amongst many in this province is that everyone should be created equal within medical needs - so no one can jump in front of another. Many do leave to go to other provinces do to this Jules.
One more thing .....I am not a big union person...But i can see how the union could keep some employers in check ..( like the government)... And i do think that seniority should come into play at a job...(doesn't mean that you don't do you job) but i have been at my place of employment for long time and think that it should count for something.....
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong I do am not anti union it's just something that is taking place here and I truly believe within accountablilty....yet it was a fine day being able to get other things done. There is no system that is perfect but I am a firm believer within accountablity and keeping those things in check in which are monitored by way of the minister of health...
ReplyDeleteThere is always good and bad about unions. People before us have done a lot for the gains that have been made. Unions were a necessary thing back then. However, some take advantage having in mind that they are protected by their seniority, but unions or not, there will always be the ones taking advantage, and as long as they are not discovered, they will keep on doing it. I work in an office where there is no union, however, I think that somehow we benefit from the fact that our plant workers do have an union, it is like having the gains without the pains. Well, I guess we could discuss this for hours and we probably would not have a magic solution. We hope for the best. Interesting to stop and think about it all.
ReplyDeleteYeah it was something I had thought about this morning and more so within the medical arena. But we live in a different economic climate right now as well. Things are not as easy as they were before yet where there is a will there is a way. There is always good and bad with each and everything. One hopes for that magical solution whereby they have a consistency within what they do and the merits render the benefits that are well deserved.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've been able to gather, there are certain Canadian provinces which provide excellent health care, and some that do not. Particularly the French Canadian Province, from my understanding.
ReplyDeleteAs for unions....they gave us the 40 hour work week, anti-child labor laws, paid vacations and holidays, and many other things of which we are now the beneficiaries.
But sometimes they can become corrupt. Sometimes they're too powerful. Sometimes they're ineffectual. The case which you sited with your father in intensive care is obviously inexcusable.
On the other hand, I've never been in a unionized workplace and have seen the abuses that bosses and company owners can heap upon their employees, who have no one to stand up for them. I've been in that position myself, more times than I can count.
Unions can be both good and bad. Perhaps if they gain too much power they become corrupted, as power tends to corrupt. But I'm not sure. It's difficult for me to form an intelligent opinion of them.
Good unions are certainly better then no unions. But the effect of bad ones can be worse.
I suppose the question is: how do we keep good unions from going bad?
And to that question I have no answer.
It's really is much about how to keep unions from going bad I guess it lends itself to a variety of areas but within Canada all province with the exception of one has a two tier system all of them rank very highly. Most of them are inter connected with the Mayo Clinic as well as some other areas that are overseas. But yes it really is about good unions within any system of organization as you have said.
ReplyDeleteIt has to do with the cost of living and each time if they get a raise it is barley enough till next time so no I totaly disagree with you there-
ReplyDeletesenority is senority and unless you followed these gals around for a day or two you have no way of knowing what thwy do by the way we in seniority usually must do all the paper work and let me tell you that is not easy-and from just seeing a couple of people siting you mustn't judge the whole industry-
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ReplyDeletethe union that gave unions a bad name was the Teamsters they were and still are trouble -
Smiling they never did find Jimmy Hoffa - somewhere he might just be embedded in cement...
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