Yesterday night while I was on here I had read one blogging friends blog and then thereafter I looked further into it and it's amazing with what has taken place, Darbie has a few exceptional links with regards to this as set out below:
Well, not security matters, there's a lot of bad stuff going on out there.
I have read that -A free press is only as beneficial as the wisdom of the people running it. Managing information and conveying the news requires more thoughtful analysis than that provided by simple bumper sticker slogans like "the people have a right to know." The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
An example On Sunday, January 22, 2006, the Washington Post's front page announced that the U.S. had spent 1.9 million dollars to bolster the governing Fatah faction's image with Palestinian voters and give the moderate party a boost in competing with the terrorist faction Hamas in the upcoming elections.
On Wednesday, January 25, a tight election gave Hamas a majority of seats in the Palestinian parliament, a catastrophe of epic proportions for the Palestinians, Israel, the Middle East, the US, and the world.
It would stretch credulity to argue that these two events were not connected. The Post's decision to reveal U.S. attempts to influence the Palestinian election almost certainly played a significant role in shifting a critical mass of votes to Hamas. Moreover, the Post had to know that the timing of its story could have such a result.
The United States, the Post must be aware, it was waging a war against Middle East terrorism in which the resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was a critical factor. Secret efforts to increase the chances that a vicious terrorist organization does not gain political control of the Palestinians are as much a tactic in the war as troop maneuvers, intelligence gathering, and bombing. To be effective, these efforts obviously had to remain secret, because the reaction of the Palestinian public to a foreign power attempting to affect its elections would predictably be the same as that of American voters if Osama Bin Laden had come out before our elections with an endorsement of Obama.
The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
The public has a right not to know, when withholding information is likely to benefit the country and save lives. The press is supposed to be working for us, not against us. It is frightening that it does not appear at times to be able to understand the distinction.
"The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information."
if this guy is doing be cause we Americans deserve to know the truth, I think he would be better off hacking the terrorist groups and telling us that info
I don't think the who is nearly as important as the motivation. Why do something that can jeopardize the lives of others? Why put others in harms way? And why do it without revealing yourself? There are some secrets that should remain a secret, particularly in regards to national security.
Only an idiot would think that everyone should be told everything. As long as there are unscrupulous people, secrets must be kept. Revealing them does not make dishonest or dangerous people honest or less dangerous. It makes innocent people dead.
American people have the right to know the truth. Enough cover up from the government. After all, we pay their salary with our hard-earned tax dollars!
I kind of agree with the above comment from warburrton! .... We pay our governements to run our countries ... therefore we have a right to know whats going on. The privacy about defence and security perhaps is a different story ... but perhaps they should be putting their efforts into peace ~smile~ .... but I guess war makes more money! I see us all as little people just listening to what the powers that be dictate ..... in truth we know absolutely nothing almost as though we are a seperate entity from THEM. Keep the people sweet and we can justify anything we want to do. ~smile~ ... I am so not into politics as I don't believe they have the right to control! We are all equalls and actually if governments actually listened to the people ... life would be a lot smoother!
I believe we should all act in such a way that it wouldn't matter if all was published. There is also the question of spin and portraying things to seem as....
too many things are hidden as classified, at least in Italy . we want to know who killed our peoplee and why instead of hiding it under the label "secret of state" it is too simple not to let people know the truth.
djdx wrote today at 1:09 AM I believe we should all act in such a way that it wouldn't matter if all was published.
I totally agree... Individuals, police officers, soldiers, and our government should all behave with honesty, integrity, and honor truth. Why is there such fear of truth?
I think the government has lied to the public long enough. It's time they stop lying, hiding things, covering their asses, and abusing power (given to them by us) for their own personal gains in the name of "national security". The only way to do that is to expose the truth, all truth, nothing but the truth.
On Sunday, January 22, 2006, the Washington Post's front page announced that the U.S. had spent 1.9 million dollars to bolster the governing Fatah faction's image with Palestinian voters and give the moderate party a boost in competing with the terrorist faction Hamas in the upcoming elections.
How do you feel about foreigners paying millions to influence American elections?
The media will do whatever they can to manipulate the public. That's freedom of the press, guaranteed by the US Constitution. It's is up to the public to filter out the information presented to us. We, as individuals, can use your head to think, to reason what is true and what is untrue. But how can we do that when things are kept hidden?
Ignorance is bliss?
Do you believe everything you read or heard from the media?
and also as history has shown can sway the multitudes--often it does. Like the example above to their own harm. So printing some security matters can do more harm than good and often does.
Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
Like the propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow It is as much a tactic, maneuvers, as any weapon can be. And even the best of tools can be dangerous in the wrong hands.
How has this thinking been used to affect human thinking and actions throughout the centuries? Over and over it has showned it can be deadly.That is just history. Think of Germany, Russia, and hundreds more. Didn't they print some truths-that the people wanted to hear? Why did so many listen and follow them so?
Again, The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
The public has a right not to know, when withholding information is likely to benefit the country and save many lives.The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
We all have our views. It would be nice I do understand if all spoke the truth and no one would" misuse" any part of it -how nice that would be. But in my opinion--there is bad in the world and we have to be careful.
it depends on the nature of the document and how it effects the people i guess but even then how do you know it is the real truth and not something sent out to stir up anger and hate within the public
after watching the evening news tonight, one has to question the motives of the "whistle blowers".
ReplyDeletenot if it is in the interest of our national security!
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDeletenope
ReplyDeleteNo, classified is classified for a reason.
ReplyDeleteNo.
ReplyDeleteNope from this side as well I was reading on it more after last night when Darby had posted on this topic and it's hitting the news in a big way.
ReplyDeleteYesterday night while I was on here I had read one blogging friends blog and then thereafter I looked further into it
ReplyDeleteand it's amazing with what has taken place, Darbie has a few exceptional links with regards to this as set out below:
http://sistersunshine.multiply.com/links/item/48/US_Asks_WikiLeaks_to_Halt_Document_Release
http://sistersunshine.multiply.com/links/item/48
http://sistersunshine.multiply.com/links/item/52
Thereafter this evening I was reading up to it and the above links are with a very nice friend on here by the name of
Darbie.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/07/26/f-wikileaks-background-faq.html
ReplyDeleteI thought I would add this link in addition and it will be interesting to see how this is handled.
Well, not security matters, there's a lot of bad stuff going on out there.
ReplyDeleteI have read that -A free press is only as beneficial as the wisdom of the people running it. Managing information and conveying the news requires more thoughtful analysis than that provided by simple bumper sticker slogans like "the people have a right to know." The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
An example
On Sunday, January 22, 2006, the Washington Post's front page announced that the U.S. had spent 1.9 million dollars to bolster the governing Fatah faction's image with Palestinian voters and give the moderate party a boost in competing with the terrorist faction Hamas in the upcoming elections.
On Wednesday, January 25, a tight election gave Hamas a majority of seats in the Palestinian parliament, a catastrophe of epic proportions for the Palestinians, Israel, the Middle East, the US, and the world.
It would stretch credulity to argue that these two events were not connected. The Post's decision to reveal U.S. attempts to influence the Palestinian election almost certainly played a significant role in shifting a critical mass of votes to Hamas. Moreover, the Post had to know that the timing of its story could have such a result.
The United States, the Post must be aware, it was waging a war against Middle East terrorism in which the resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was a critical factor. Secret efforts to increase the chances that a vicious terrorist organization does not gain political control of the Palestinians are as much a tactic in the war as troop maneuvers, intelligence gathering, and bombing. To be effective, these efforts obviously had to remain secret, because the reaction of the Palestinian public to a foreign power attempting to affect its elections would predictably be the same as that of American voters if Osama Bin Laden had come out before our elections with an endorsement of Obama.
The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
The public has a right not to know, when withholding information is likely to benefit the country and save lives. The press is supposed to be working for us, not against us. It is frightening that it does not appear at times to be able to understand the distinction.
"The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information."
ReplyDeleteIt's exactly the way I feel Haddy.
i think they should have found the person doing the leaking and arrest him for treason.
ReplyDeleteNot the stuff that can affect national security. I'm sure the government keeps all sorts of secrets from us we will never know...
ReplyDeleteNope, and they should not know all my secrets either.
ReplyDeleteif this guy is doing be cause we Americans deserve to know the truth, I think he would be better off hacking the terrorist groups and telling us that info
ReplyDeleteWikileaks has done that in the past.
ReplyDeleteI also think that what should be of more concern is who leaks this information??
ReplyDeleteI don't think the who is nearly as important as the motivation. Why do something that can jeopardize the lives of others? Why put others in harms way? And why do it without revealing yourself? There are some secrets that should remain a secret, particularly in regards to national security.
ReplyDeleteOnly an idiot would think that everyone should be told everything. As long as there are unscrupulous people, secrets must be kept. Revealing them does not make dishonest or dangerous people honest or less dangerous. It makes innocent people dead.
American people have the right to know the truth. Enough cover up from the government. After all, we pay their salary with our hard-earned tax dollars!
ReplyDeleteI kind of agree with the above comment from warburrton! .... We pay our governements to run our countries ... therefore we have a right to know whats going on. The privacy about defence and security perhaps is a different story ... but perhaps they should be putting their efforts into peace ~smile~ .... but I guess war makes more money!
ReplyDeleteI see us all as little people just listening to what the powers that be dictate ..... in truth we know absolutely nothing almost as though we are a seperate entity from THEM. Keep the people sweet and we can justify anything we want to do.
~smile~ ... I am so not into politics as I don't believe they have the right to control! We are all equalls and actually if governments actually listened to the people ... life would be a lot smoother!
I believe we should all act in such a way that it wouldn't matter if all was published. There is also the question of spin and portraying things to seem as....
ReplyDeletetoo many things are hidden as classified, at least in Italy . we want to know who killed our peoplee and why instead of hiding it under the label "secret of state" it is too simple not to let people know the truth.
ReplyDeletedjdx wrote today at 1:09 AM
ReplyDeleteI believe we should all act in such a way that it wouldn't matter if all was published.
I totally agree...
Individuals, police officers, soldiers, and our government should all behave with honesty, integrity, and honor truth.
Why is there such fear of truth?
I think the government has lied to the public long enough. It's time they stop lying, hiding things, covering their asses, and abusing power (given to them by us) for their own personal gains in the name of "national security". The only way to do that is to expose the truth, all truth, nothing but the truth.
ReplyDeleteI agree completely
ReplyDeletehadenough1 wrote on Nov 29
ReplyDeleteOn Sunday, January 22, 2006, the Washington Post's front page announced that the U.S. had spent 1.9 million dollars to bolster the governing Fatah faction's image with Palestinian voters and give the moderate party a boost in competing with the terrorist faction Hamas in the upcoming elections.
How do you feel about foreigners paying millions to influence American elections?
"The only way to do that is to expose the truth, all truth, nothing but the truth."
ReplyDeleteAnd you think the media will do that? No slant, no bias? Hmm
I don't like it--any more than they did.
ReplyDeleteThe media will do whatever they can to manipulate the public. That's freedom of the press, guaranteed by the US Constitution.
ReplyDeleteIt's is up to the public to filter out the information presented to us. We, as individuals, can use your head to think, to reason what is true and what is untrue.
But how can we do that when things are kept hidden?
Ignorance is bliss?
Do you believe everything you read or heard from the media?
Do I believe everything I read--no. But many do.
ReplyDeleteand also as history has shown can sway the multitudes--often it does. Like the example above to their own harm. So printing some security matters can do more harm than good and often does.
Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
Like the propagandist makes sure that his message appears to be the right and moral one and that it gives you a sense of importance and belonging if you follow It is as much a tactic, maneuvers, as any weapon can be. And even the best of tools can be dangerous in the wrong hands.
How has this thinking been used to affect human thinking and actions throughout the centuries? Over and over it has showned it can be deadly.That is just history. Think of Germany, Russia, and hundreds more. Didn't they print some truths-that the people wanted to hear? Why did so many listen and follow them so?
Again, The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
The public has a right not to know, when withholding information is likely to benefit the country and save many lives.The press should be able to recognize and act responsibly when they encounter the special circumstances when the public's "knowing" about something is less important than the damage that will result from releasing the information.
We all have our views. It would be nice I do understand if all spoke the truth and no one would" misuse" any part of it -how nice that would be. But in my opinion--there is bad in the world and we have to be careful.
it depends on the nature of the document and how it effects the people i guess but even then how do you know it is the real truth and not something sent out to stir up anger and hate within the public
ReplyDeleteKen I wrote something here this eve about it:
ReplyDeletehttp://initiativestain.multiply.com/journal/item/1249/Commentary_by_Jack
K having a look at it now :-)
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