Do you feel that there is a need from pretentious people that feel they are the "in" clan, I certainly don't as I feel that everyone is rather equal and there is a substance within that.
~Yeah~
Most people I find are fairly decent and able to let you be yourself, while they are 'themselves' However, there are those who seem to be on a mission to be . . . something else, and do not rub shoulders well with others.. Just my thoughts here.
I do but many feel I am a group and to the contrary I have actually made recommends with some very good friends, so you just do your own thing along with others.
Anyone can be pretentious even from close friends ... not unless you know the person personally. I met a lot already ... here, and outside. Last night I have met one ... i just shrugged it of. And closed down my notebook ... that is life. I maintain my close friends from the past who knew me, inside and out ...
Aw, it just flows Maritess one can have a small disagreement and well I just enjoy this for what it is I have no ill will on here within anyone in no means within the blogosphere or otherwise...I love to merge with all from all areas and vantages as this is what it can be...so it's rather coltish outside...but it's all just fine.
One of nicest, gentlest most unassuming people I know is known as 'Gator' here on multiply, a fine person without a hint of an inflated ego or pretentiousness. I do hope that he isn't the person to whom you are referring Jack!
This was on here for a few Heather I hope you undestand I was speaking at large as I thoroughly enjoy everything within blogging. Within PP at times and as you know on my very own with others. I hope you understand.
This has nothing to with promoting PP, if you enjoy the site and promote it thats great! However the only alligator I know on multiply is Gary...and I wondered if that was who you were referring to. If you say it isnt, i have to believe that!
Pretentious is just another word for inflated ego ... its ALL about that person's self importance and therefore a clan setting is ideal as ego need's an audience. The minute you dont agree with this person ... you are ousted!! .... I have a family member who is pretentious and I see her pretention as a cover for things that are lacking in her life. Its all about growing up really. Accepting your lot and being comfortable with who you are ....
A good morning to you Keith...true but deep for me I just awoketh, me no perfect :) But I know what your saying with regards to non perfection as being Human beings.
Lynne, I can come across on here very pretentious but it's too the contrary I will say what I say and then where it goes ....if I can live with what I say and not have to scratch my behind for all those that are pretentious and am I worried of being kicked out of a group. No. Does the moderator have eyes behind here with others that will and have come in to see what is happening yes. So Heathers defence mechanism last night was one that was decent but if I am not within a group hey I have an idea. However this write was on the entire blogosphere but "C'est la gear". For all I know I am ousted as what she had done there did cause some ripple effects with some friends on here and that happen two weeks ago due to a theme and frankly speaking it was not acceptable for that to happen on my blog. However being on these two meds really .............well lets say I am imperfect as I never have felt so.......so like that :)
The only time you pop in here is when someone "whispers" within your ear Heather, come on let be honest but you run that group great. You do, pm me next time as you know that your presence is sent out to all the members of Picture Perfect. Question for you how many occasions did I promote foto friday?
I dont think you come across as being pretentious at all .... pretention is about being something that you are not .... your thoughts and your ideals are very much who you are and your words are pretty straight forward .... If one cannot offer one's thoughts and ideals without confrontation then someone is not listening to you ... rather they are finding fault with you .... this is not about pretentiousness ... its about arrogance ..... If you are ousted from whatever group it is ... then its their loss Jack ... not yours. You do know that like minded attract like minded ...~smile~ ..... its the jungle of life, remember ..... lions stick together as do the elephants ..... they pass by each other with respect and accept each other for who they are... but they do not feed together! I have met and moved on from many judgements .... I have no regrets because I am left with those who feed with me .... nourishment of the soul ....
Very true, I like the good spirited people and ironically just before I was off for a few days there was one that was asking me what and whom I was on here as well as my id on messenger and guess where she was coming from....But you know what, I just love the smell of the morning dew, and enjoying myself as well as being a little whitty.
U have to remember this is the internet and the internet has its scammers, lonely people, pedophiles, drama queens, attention whores...Take it w/a grain of salt... These groups are not the end-all groups... these groups are just for* FUN AND SOCIAL, they are by no means* PROFESSIONAL and if they come off that way then most likely the information/tutorials have been copied and pasted from Google.... One friend told me that a photo group that had a massive questionaire attached to it was taken off the internet and that the questions were totally out of line and ludicrous...
~smile~ .... life is too short to be anything but happy ..... but you know ... there are a lot of people who are still waiting to be happy .... they dont realise that it comes from within and there isnt a soul on earth you can give you that .... they can enhance who you are ... but they cannot make you happy, thats up to ourselves!!
Smelling the morning dew with a happy heart is certainly a wonderful way to inhale the day!!
Pretentious people must constantly maintain a facade....pretending to be someone they are not. It's much more comfortable to be oneself! :)
I know of someone who chooses to always us big words to say something that could and should be said rather simply. He communicates this way because he thinks that he is impressing everyone with how "smart" he (thinks) he is. The truth of the matter is that really smart communicators use words that they understand, and that their readers are likely to understand. Anything else is not only pretentious, but unnecessary.
How are you today, Jack! I hope all is well in your corner of the world! :)
It came from one member owner of a group I belong to Maryann, I would rather break confidence as Heather came in here last night and I have many that are wondering whom I was talking about.....
So I will say that the owner and host of what is known as foto friday sometimes can be very pretentious. Heather I do like she tries to sort things out but I think ............you know what I mean. But I love the harmony within each person. I do...
HAHA!...funny....I can see why some people have a totally diff view when their butt is getting kissed and egos are getting stroked.....and if you didn't wanted response to your statement here then maybe you should have spanked Jack in a PM instead of commenting on a blog where you are not a contact.
Jack,I wasn't online last night, but I will say that I'm sorry to hear that there has been some sort of fallout between friends. As you know, we cannot control how others behave, but thankfully, we do have options on Multiply allowing us to put a stop to bad behavior.. Like.....click, DELETE! lol!
With that being said, I always look forward to your writings, and to reading all the great comments from your all your friends here that have the same love and respect for you as I do. :)
I have quit most groups in Multiply....I have encountered a lot of ugliness....My interaction with gator left me sour also....I saw nothing but hypocrisy....lies...self-rightous behavior....another within the group is a Scammer.....borrowed money from my friend for a video card for her computer and never paid her back....All I can say is be very careful who you interact with....Multiply photos groups are not professional sites...many saying they are professional photogs but it does not reflect in their photography...Multiply photo groups are only for fun and when they cease being fun then why waste your time?.....Had to laugh when I saw it written in PP to a winner of their contest it said...."everyone loved it and according to the votes, it is this weeks best picture in the world! "....In the world???? HAHA....Wonderful photo yes but what makes PP think they are so important in the Photography world that a winner of their contest would make a photo world renown? ...Talk about pretentious!
I guess thats the balances of life and society .... you get the writers and then you get the fighters ..... and to be honest that is a great divide because one cannot be both. Whilest the writer tries to build the bridge over the divide ... the storm from the fighter plays havoc with the foundations .... beating relentlessly at the writer because all fighters know .... there is safety in numbers .... so they usually come in packs! I do believe that once one has voiced an opinion and it still falls on negative ears, or even worse falls into a full scale war .... its time to forget and move on. A true soul will recognise the words of another with respect and although they may no fully agree .... they should be big enough to understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thats when one knows who ones true friends are. True friends don't double talk and definitely dont take sides ..... I have absolutely no idea what has transpired here and am just running with my thoughts ... .... go with that intuition of yours Jack ... you will see people a lot more clearly ...
Yeah and within this it really is being careful with whom you interact with as I do literally enjoy the people that I do have on here and I had to come on with this as I just arrived in. I just write within an authentic manner and never hoax anyone and am not arrogant but before this gets going I do wish to say that this does happen with everyone, but Geo there are great people that literally I have search for and am so pleased to write with. I am not anti PP - the group that is I have always just enjoyed it for the array of photos and as well for the most part I literally enjoy the write amongst friends. I do mean that and I don't like pointing this out but when you have some very significant people on here that will stray when they see problems well, I would rather state it as it is. It's hard getting on the mic and speaking without taking up too much time but PP is superb in it's way and all the groups, there are several that know I have never had a group since I closed down my own some 3 years ago.
So I just write and there is something to be said about being presumtious and then there is something to just enjoying this as it is a form of expression....as it is Geo.. Hugs and thank you. I love the amount of good natured, good willed people on here and I hope there is no influencial things that appear, at least not on my blog as now PP has been pointed out. But I literally love the arrays of pictures - that is what makes it for me, and I think for many others.
Thanks for elaborating on this topic, more so than PP. As it goes for miles with many and well I have to take a lay down here with my knees but shall be on later.
The concept of PP is wonderful...I enjoy seeing the posts of my friends....It's a fun way to share photos & creativity....But I have seen admins go on attack with people whom have diff points of view several times....comments that should have been dealt with on a private basis....Some of the past and some of the present admins of the site get a little full of themselves and hurt people....that is what doesn't fly with me....Admins represent the site....and it is the admins that have ruined PP for me....sad because the concept of PP was fun for me.....but unfortunately I couldn't get past the fact that some of the admins make me wanna hurl.
Jack, I wanted to leave you an audio reply here, but, once again, I seem to be having trouble with this feature! I thought I solved this problem last time! Grrrrrr! :)
Anyway, I think I shall be writing about my personal experience, thoughts, etc. concerning 9-11 in a day or so. The company that I was employed by at the time had employees working in a nearby building (WTC 6) when the planes hit the Towers. WTC 6 stood directly Northeast of the North Tower, and was demolished as part of the clean-up of Ground Zero. Thankfully, all our employees were safely evacuated from the building. However, they witnessed the horror first-hand of people jumping from the Towers, etc. As I write just this little bit, tears are already flowing.
Jack, let us not forget, please ... those were pictures taken up by different persons "only" compiled by the acting managers ... and so, the credit should be put to individuals who took the time to get all those amateur photos, and not to the one acting up as owners. It's a sort of collaborarations by not just one single person but of a group.
It's a labour of each individuals acting as members ... if one is becoming a swelled headed because she/or he thinks their group is becoming known[?] heheh ... it is still far from reality. National Geographic should not be compared to them ... please, gosh!!!! it's a shame. laughs* For me ... it's liked "slumbook" we did during high school and college days.
And one more thing ... which i don't like is that, some group tends to "gossip' once they are banded thinking that if one is alone ... they can ruin the reputations of that single person ... i followed that to the letter. I have read it ... and I shunned those kind of camaderie ... of how they talked cheap things on view and being read by so many.
In other words ... "forget them"
There are still plenty of things not discovered ... and that's the very heart of each one of us! :) Simple ... yep. But Life begins in that very simple thing. My warmth hugs to you ... :)
I think if Jack has an open site..and he is talking about me and my admins who are friends of mine, then I think I am entitled to comment openly and defend myself.
I think then that you Geo, are the only person to see personal altercations as 'attacks' by us on others, its not something we do from within the site. As individuals we have all had differences with others people.. its human nature..at least with three of you commenting here it seems. But as an admin..on Picture Perfect..I deny and defend that strongly.
Generally the whole tone of these comments is sad and quite pathetic, by a few who have ostracized themselves from the site for their own personal reasons due to interpersonal differences, and then turned on us like ravaging wolves. Its ridiculous really.
Jack I appreciate your support of the site, I saw your message on PP this morning saying you had been kicked out, but you were definitely NOT removed by any of the admins on PP. I have no clue how that happened. If I HAD removed you I would have had no hesitation in informing you of that decision.
Nobody has ever claimed Picture Perfect to be a professional site, it is run by amateurs for amateurs and we have done nothing but promote fun and camaraderie through the creativity and sharing of photography. We use the term 'Best in the World' .. tongue in cheek because our participants are from all over the world ..not because they are ACTUALLY the best in the world...for heavens sakes!
There is nothing pretentious about any of us..we are just a group of ordinary folk trying to have a little good clean fun online..and your anger and derision towards the site is a pretty sad reflection on yourselves.
I'm proud of the way Picture Perfect runs, I'm proud of the people who help me and have helped in the past, good folk. I'm proud of my accomplishments and the encouragement and camaraderie I have helped promote, its incredible and rather sad that I have to fight so hard to preserve the goodness of it!
Regards to you may you all move forward and leave Picture Perfect in peace Heather
idk anyone pretentious so i couldn't tell you; in my opinion everyone is equal as well.
ReplyDeleteis the a private message?
ReplyDeleteno.
ReplyDeleteYo no se...
ReplyDeleteI say nothing...
I know that everyone is equal as well. But I have encountered far too many who feel they are superior, I don't know why they feel that way
ReplyDeleteLets just say that he or she is not on my blog ....
ReplyDeletehmmmm
ReplyDeleteIt's life but this one I will stay away from....it's all good some tell me that I should have less I am happy with right where things are Sharon...
ReplyDeleteMost people I find are fairly decent and able to let you be yourself, while they are 'themselves'
ReplyDeleteHowever, there are those who seem to be on a mission to be . . . something else, and do not rub shoulders well with others..
Just my thoughts here.
I never was fond of aligators lets just say that...
ReplyDeleteI do but many feel I am a group and to the contrary I have actually made recommends with some very good friends, so you just do your own thing along with others.
ReplyDeleteAnyone can be pretentious even from close friends ... not unless you know the person personally. I met a lot already ... here, and outside. Last night I have met one ... i just shrugged it of. And closed down my notebook ... that is life. I maintain my close friends from the past who knew me, inside and out ...
ReplyDeleteI wasn't cut out to be an alligator.
ReplyDeleteNor me...
ReplyDeleteSome people live to be in with a group and have some inside track others are omitted from.
ReplyDeleteIts like their psyches never quite made it out of high school.
Aw, it just flows Maritess one can have a small disagreement and well I just enjoy this for what it is I have no ill will on here within anyone in no means within the blogosphere or otherwise...I love to merge with all from all areas and vantages as this is what it can be...so it's rather coltish outside...but it's all just fine.
ReplyDeleteGrand in fact.
Doug you have a great grasp and handle on all of this area...and yeah it's life and so be it.
ReplyDeleteThanks Jack. I've seen enough of it on display at school reunions and at places I've worked in the past.
ReplyDeleteOne of nicest, gentlest most unassuming people I know is known as 'Gator' here on multiply, a fine person without a hint of an inflated ego or pretentiousness. I do hope that he isn't the person to whom you are referring Jack!
ReplyDeleteHeather
This was on here for a few Heather I hope you undestand I was speaking at large as I thoroughly enjoy everything within blogging.
ReplyDeleteWithin PP at times and as you know on my very own with others. I hope you understand.
Ok, I was just wondering!
ReplyDeleteVery well you do realize I have promoted Picture Perfect two times yeah? I think so and you do have great themes.
ReplyDeleteThis has nothing to with promoting PP, if you enjoy the site and promote it thats great! However the only alligator I know on multiply is Gary...and I wondered if that was who you were referring to. If you say it isnt, i have to believe that!
ReplyDeleteDrop it...
ReplyDelete:) ... just passing by. Good night, Jack :)
ReplyDeleteI wish to see if I can find an oldie called, "Gone Fishin" By Bing Cosby with Louis Armstrong...
ReplyDeleteGone Fishin'my father loves that song ... its in youtube, Jack
ReplyDeleteNope....:)
ReplyDeleteReally ? Where abouts? lol
ReplyDeleteOn my page already ... laughs*
ReplyDeleteLet's trade :)
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yOktBoBbSs
we are all equally pretentious and if not then equally fail to be perfect.
ReplyDeletePretentious is just another word for inflated ego ... its ALL about that person's self importance and therefore a clan setting is ideal as ego need's an audience. The minute you dont agree with this person ... you are ousted!! .... I have a family member who is pretentious and I see her pretention as a cover for things that are lacking in her life.
ReplyDeleteIts all about growing up really. Accepting your lot and being comfortable with who you are ....
Ok let's trade ...
ReplyDeletehere :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjZ7hx4--iU
Good eve from my side ...
A good morning to you Keith...true but deep for me I just awoketh, me no perfect :) But I know what your saying with regards to non perfection as being Human beings.
ReplyDeleteLynne, I can come across on here very pretentious but it's too the contrary I will say what I say and then where it goes ....if I can live with what I say and not have to scratch my behind for all those that are pretentious and am I worried of being kicked out of a group. No.
ReplyDeleteDoes the moderator have eyes behind here with others that will and have come in to see what is happening yes.
So Heathers defence mechanism last night was one that was decent but if I am not within a group hey I have an idea. However this write was on the entire blogosphere but "C'est la gear". For all I know I am ousted as what she had done there did cause some ripple effects with some friends on here and that happen two weeks ago due to a theme and frankly speaking it was not acceptable for that to happen on my blog. However being on these two meds really .............well lets say I am imperfect as I never have felt so.......so like that :)
Hold on dear, your smarter than I realized and just woke up let me sip my coffee...:)
ReplyDeleteThe only time you pop in here is when someone "whispers" within your ear Heather, come on let be honest but you run that group great.
ReplyDeleteYou do, pm me next time as you know that your presence is sent out to all the members of Picture Perfect. Question for you how many occasions did I promote foto friday?
I dont think you come across as being pretentious at all .... pretention is about being something that you are not .... your thoughts and your ideals are very much who you are and your words are pretty straight forward ....
ReplyDeleteIf one cannot offer one's thoughts and ideals without confrontation then someone is not listening to you ... rather they are finding fault with you .... this is not about pretentiousness ... its about arrogance .....
If you are ousted from whatever group it is ... then its their loss Jack ... not yours. You do know that like minded attract like minded ...~smile~ ..... its the jungle of life, remember ..... lions stick together as do the elephants ..... they pass by each other with respect and accept each other for who they are... but they do not feed together!
I have met and moved on from many judgements .... I have no regrets because I am left with those who feed with me .... nourishment of the soul ....
Very true, I like the good spirited people and ironically just before I was off for a few days there was one that was asking me what and whom I was on here as well as my id on messenger and guess where she was coming from....But you know what, I just love the smell of the morning dew, and enjoying myself as well as being a little whitty.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9K4BKkLaCI
U have to remember this is the internet and the internet has its scammers, lonely people, pedophiles, drama queens, attention whores...Take it w/a grain of salt... These groups are not the end-all groups... these groups are just for* FUN AND SOCIAL, they are by no means* PROFESSIONAL and if they come off that way then most likely the information/tutorials have been copied and pasted from Google.... One friend told me that a photo group that had a massive questionaire attached to it was taken off the internet and that the questions were totally out of line and ludicrous...
ReplyDelete*(the caps were to emphasize)
Thanks much...have to get another coffee here....:)
ReplyDeletetouche to your utube video! lol
ReplyDelete~smile~ .... life is too short to be anything but happy ..... but you know ... there are a lot of people who are still waiting to be happy .... they dont realise that it comes from within and there isnt a soul on earth you can give you that .... they can enhance who you are ... but they cannot make you happy, thats up to ourselves!!
ReplyDeleteSmelling the morning dew with a happy heart is certainly a wonderful way to inhale the day!!
I just arrived on and there has been a tad of a fall out with some good friends, I would kindly ask for this to come to an end - now.
ReplyDeletePretentious people must constantly maintain a facade....pretending to be someone they are not. It's much more comfortable to be oneself! :)
ReplyDeleteI know of someone who chooses to always us big words to say something that could and should be said rather simply. He communicates this way because he thinks that he is impressing everyone with how "smart" he (thinks) he is. The truth of the matter is that really smart communicators use words that they understand, and that their readers are likely to understand. Anything else is not only pretentious, but unnecessary.
How are you today, Jack! I hope all is well in your corner of the world! :)
It came from one member owner of a group I belong to Maryann, I would rather break confidence as Heather came in here last night and I have many that are wondering whom I was talking about.....
ReplyDeleteSo I will say that the owner and host of what is known as foto friday sometimes can be very pretentious. Heather I do like she tries to sort things out but I think ............you know what I mean. But I love the harmony within each person. I do...
HAHA!...funny....I can see why some people have a totally diff view when their butt is getting kissed and egos are getting stroked.....and if you didn't wanted response to
ReplyDeleteyour statement here then maybe you should have spanked Jack in a PM instead of commenting on a blog where you are not a contact.
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ReplyDeleteJack my friend please allow me to respectfully give you a piece of advice....don't put fire under a pot of water and expect it not to boil.
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ReplyDeleteJack,I wasn't online last night, but I will say that I'm sorry to hear that there has been some sort of fallout between friends. As you know, we cannot control how others behave, but thankfully, we do have options on Multiply allowing us to put a stop to bad behavior.. Like.....click, DELETE! lol!
ReplyDeleteWith that being said, I always look forward to your writings, and to reading all the great comments from your all your friends here that have the same love and respect for you as I do. :)
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ReplyDeleteI have quit most groups in Multiply....I have encountered a lot of ugliness....My interaction with gator left me sour also....I saw nothing but hypocrisy....lies...self-rightous behavior....another within the group is a Scammer.....borrowed money from my friend for a video card for her computer and never paid her back....All I can say is be very careful who you interact with....Multiply photos groups are not professional sites...many saying they are professional photogs but it does not reflect in their photography...Multiply photo groups are only for fun and when they cease being fun then why waste your time?.....Had to laugh when I saw it written in PP to a winner of their contest it said...."everyone loved it and according to the votes, it is this weeks best picture in the world! "....In the world???? HAHA....Wonderful photo yes but what makes PP think they are so important in the Photography world that a winner of their contest would make a photo world renown? ...Talk about pretentious!
ReplyDeletehttp://fotofriday.multiply.com/journal/item/300/Top_Ten_Winner_Sue_Snow_Geese
You are comparing PP to National Geographic... HAHA OMG!.....
ReplyDeleteI guess thats the balances of life and society .... you get the writers and then you get the fighters ..... and to be honest that is a great divide because one cannot be both. Whilest the writer tries to build the bridge over the divide ... the storm from the fighter plays havoc with the foundations .... beating relentlessly at the writer because all fighters know .... there is safety in numbers .... so they usually come in packs!
ReplyDeleteI do believe that once one has voiced an opinion and it still falls on negative ears, or even worse falls into a full scale war .... its time to forget and move on. A true soul will recognise the words of another with respect and although they may no fully agree .... they should be big enough to understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Thats when one knows who ones true friends are. True friends don't double talk and definitely dont take sides .....
I have absolutely no idea what has transpired here and am just running with my thoughts ...
.... go with that intuition of yours Jack ... you will see people a lot more clearly ...
Yeah and within this it really is being careful with whom you interact with as I do literally enjoy the people that I do have on here and I had to come on with this as I just arrived in. I just write within an authentic manner and never hoax anyone and am not arrogant but before this gets going I do wish to say that this does happen with everyone, but Geo there are great people that literally I have search for and am so pleased to write with. I am not anti PP - the group that is I have always just enjoyed it for the array of photos and as well for the most part I literally enjoy the write amongst friends. I do mean that and I don't like pointing this out but when you have some very significant people on here that will stray when they see problems well, I would rather state it as it is. It's hard getting on the mic and speaking without taking up too much time but PP is superb in it's way and all the groups, there are several that know I have never had a group since I closed down my own some 3 years ago.
ReplyDeleteSo I just write and there is something to be said about being presumtious and then there is something to just enjoying this as it is a form of expression....as it is Geo.. Hugs and thank you.
I love the amount of good natured, good willed people on here and I hope there is no influencial things that appear, at least not on my blog as now PP has been pointed out. But I literally love the arrays of pictures - that is what makes it for me, and I think for many others.
Thanks for elaborating on this topic, more so than PP. As it goes for miles with many and well I have to take a lay down here with my knees but shall be on later.
Thank you again...
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ReplyDeleteThank you for your message, Jack; you are always the voice of reason, in my book! :)
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ReplyDeleteThe concept of PP is wonderful...I enjoy seeing the posts of my friends....It's a fun way to share photos & creativity....But I have seen admins go on attack with people whom have diff points of view several times....comments that should have been dealt with on a private basis....Some of the past and some of the present admins of the site get a little full of themselves and hurt people....that is what doesn't fly with me....Admins represent the site....and it is the admins that have ruined PP for me....sad because the concept of PP was fun for me.....but unfortunately I couldn't get past the fact that some of the admins make me wanna hurl.
ReplyDelete~smile~ .... you state it so well Geo .....
ReplyDelete.... perhaps all us misfits should band together and create our own photographic site ???
Jack, I wanted to leave you an audio reply here, but, once again, I seem to be having trouble with this feature! I thought I solved this problem last time! Grrrrrr! :)
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I think I shall be writing about my personal experience, thoughts, etc. concerning 9-11 in a day or so. The company that I was employed by at the time had employees working in a nearby building (WTC 6) when the planes hit the Towers. WTC 6 stood directly Northeast of the North Tower, and was demolished as part of the clean-up of Ground Zero. Thankfully, all our employees were safely evacuated from the building. However, they witnessed the horror first-hand of people jumping from the Towers, etc. As I write just this little bit, tears are already flowing.
Jack, let us not forget, please ... those were pictures taken up by different persons "only" compiled by the acting managers ... and so, the credit should be put to individuals who took the time to get all those amateur photos, and not to the one acting up as owners. It's a sort of collaborarations by not just one single person but of a group.
ReplyDeleteIt's a labour of each individuals acting as members ... if one is becoming a swelled headed because she/or he thinks their group is becoming known[?] heheh ... it is still far from reality. National Geographic should not be compared to them ... please, gosh!!!! it's a shame. laughs* For me ... it's liked "slumbook" we did during high school and college days.
And one more thing ... which i don't like is that, some group tends to "gossip' once they are banded thinking that if one is alone ... they can ruin the reputations of that single person ... i followed that to the letter. I have read it ... and I shunned those kind of camaderie ... of how they talked cheap things on view and being read by so many.
In other words ... "forget them"
There are still plenty of things not discovered ... and that's the very heart of each one of us! :) Simple ... yep. But Life begins in that very simple thing. My warmth hugs to you ... :)
God bless to each one of us! smiles*
that is how some of the groups are on this site... its just a fact...
ReplyDeleteI think if Jack has an open site..and he is talking about me and my admins who are friends of mine, then I think I am entitled to comment openly and defend myself.
ReplyDeleteI think then that you Geo, are the only person to see personal altercations as 'attacks' by us on others, its not something we do from within the site. As individuals we have all had differences with others people.. its human nature..at least with three of you commenting here it seems. But as an admin..on Picture Perfect..I deny and defend that strongly.
Generally the whole tone of these comments is sad and quite pathetic, by a few who have ostracized themselves from the site for their own personal reasons due to interpersonal differences, and then turned on us like ravaging wolves. Its ridiculous really.
Jack I appreciate your support of the site, I saw your message on PP this morning saying you had been kicked out, but you were definitely NOT removed by any of the admins on PP. I have no clue how that happened. If I HAD removed you I would have had no hesitation in informing you of that decision.
Nobody has ever claimed Picture Perfect to be a professional site, it is run by amateurs for amateurs and we have done nothing but promote fun and camaraderie through the creativity and sharing of photography. We use the term 'Best in the World' .. tongue in cheek because our participants are from all over the world ..not because they are ACTUALLY the best in the world...for heavens sakes!
There is nothing pretentious about any of us..we are just a group of ordinary folk trying to have a little good clean fun online..and your anger and derision towards the site is a pretty sad reflection on yourselves.
I'm proud of the way Picture Perfect runs, I'm proud of the people who help me and have helped in the past, good folk. I'm proud of my accomplishments and the encouragement and camaraderie I have helped promote, its incredible and rather sad that I have to fight so hard to preserve the goodness of it!
Regards to you
may you all move forward and leave Picture Perfect in peace
Heather