I don't believe in guns and guns should only be within the hands of those which have been cleared, cleared and cleared. They do not belong in the hand of the ordinary person. They belong to those whom are trained.
This is true, Art. I was assuming he was referring to accidents . . . Keep them locked away. A great uncle of mine used to tell people, "They're loaded" even when they weren't. It kept idiots from aiming the "unloaded" gun . . . My ex always carried his guns with caution. It wasn't until years later when I was out with a new acquaintance that I realized how many dumb-*&^%s there are in the world who will handle a weapon carelessly and put others at risk. That doesn't keep me from enjoying the sport of it.
Right...always leave a gun with the action open and nobody touches it but the owner. Always point downrange. Finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
My Dad carried a .38 police special, which we have with a locked trigger guard. My weapon of choice is a .22 long barrel with rat shot in it. I don't like carrying the 410 shotgun in the woods, but I don't like running across copperheads, either. I prefer a weapon better than a hoe when I do. My grandfather taught me how to use a .22 rifle between 1948-1959. I still have that rifle, too.
Rural Minnesota has gun training for young people and most people are careful with guns. we use them for hunting, City people shoot a lot of cows thinking they are deer every year though and a few people.,We eat what we shoot though, not humans
In all, 2,827 kids and teens were killed in the United States during the calendar year that marked the US invasion of Iraq. At last count, the Department of Defense reports 2,497 US soldiers killed in Iraq. That's just for starters Tee...
I never have and never shall and the amount of children which are killed by these guns which are not just rifles but are of any kind should never be privy to the public at large. There are more children killed in the USA than any country in the world.....it says something.
Mass distruction what Residential distruction...I am nor ever shall be for this one as here it's not the case and those that ponder on this 1st amendment...well look at the statistics.
Too many young people in cities are using guns to hunt each other. Where i live guns are respected as is human life. I have no idea why there is such a difference but it is there.
I had to come see the whooping you were going to get for this comment Jack......lmao.....America and their right to bare arms and all..........now with that said...........I agree with you.............ducks and ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuns..........
As an American, I both agree and disagree with you - but then, my perspective is a bit skewed.
I've collected firearms for decades now; to me, they're historic artifacts (plus, they're a lot of fun with which to target-shoot on occasion). That said, I also agree with you - because you didn't say anything which remotely stated "No one should be allowed to own a firearm." You stated that the ownership of firearms should be regulated, just like the operation of an automobile. In that, I completely agree with you.
What most Americans (especially those who've commented here) do not fully understand is that there are plenty of circumstances where a Constitutional right has been legislatively regulated in the interest of public-safety. To wit:
1. The First Amendment guarantees the right of free speech. However, 'free' does not mean 'unfettered'; one may be held accountable under a variety of laws for screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, for example, or to engage in speech by which inflammatory nature causes another party to engage in a hate-crime.
2. The Second Amendment has already been regulated - the 1934 National Firearms Act was written and passed specifically to prevent the legal ownership of machine-guns, which were being used by organized crime during the Great Depression to settle differences between rival gangs - usually with innocent parties caught in the crossfire.
It's clear to me that further regulation of the Second Amendment right to 'bear arms' (Note: It's not 'bare arms' - that leads only to sunburn) is now a necessity.
Unfortunately, we have the extreme Right in this country, along with powerful organizations like the NRA, which are acting in essence against the greater good.
Well Jack, I understand your feelings and agree with them. Having been raised in northern Pa. One of the things I learned was how to handle guns at a very young age. In fact, one of the classes I had to take in 7th grade was firearms safety. We had a shooting range under the high school and you had to achieve a high degree of proficiency with a firearm to pass the course. The very first thing they taught us was, what guns can do in the wrong hands. We were shown movies of people who had been mutilated by such things. Then we learned how to take care of our guns and how to handle them. Education is the key to it all. Honest people should be able to carry firearms AFTER they have been checked over and over again and dishonest people that carry guns should rot in jail for it.
I used to go with my dad in target hunting up the mountains for deers and alamid as they call it. But that was back in younger days. 22. cal. The reason why partly i knew how to hold guns ... well for hunting. My dad now is 76. tight hugs.
Frankly Will you thrive on some of this. Yet that is ok. I don't believe in the right to bear arms. I shall never change my mind on that. The NRA can host their nest but not within this country Will. As they have never been able.
Jimi statistics show that when you can walk into the average sports place and find all types of guns - not just hunting ones. I myself do not believe in it. Hunting rifles which are registered I certainly feel are fine. But when one can buy most nearly any type of gun which goes beyond hunting. Personally I have never believed in it Jimi.
Back years ago right near where I lived a son's mother was killed just before I got there to return and live by a gang which within NYC hand the creme de la creme of GUNS...if they never had the ability there would have been no death. Education is the key yet in the manner I was educated guns do not nor ever shall reside.
I could not disagree with you more.
ReplyDeleteI shoot and am trained and licensed to shoot. I only shoot at the range:)
ReplyDeleteI understand that even here in Canada there is room for debate Ken.
ReplyDeleteI love target shooting.
ReplyDeleteMel, I don't believe that the average person should be able to bare arms...
ReplyDeleteHugs but truly I don't.
ROLF......are you serious Katherine?
ReplyDeleteQuite serious, Jack. I'm a natural. Give me a weapon with a calibrated site and I rarely miss.
ReplyDeleteWhat is your caliber of choice? I like 9mm myself.
ReplyDeleteHope your within the services Kath.
ReplyDeleteI was referring to the site, but my favorite weapon (which was always maintained by my ex) was a 22 Ruger semi-automatic pistol. :)
ReplyDeleteNo Jack. I'm just a country girl who used to go hunting with my ex.
ReplyDeleteDo you know how many children are killed each year by residential guns?
ReplyDeleteHunting is much different Katherine.
ReplyDeleteGuns kill, Jack. A good gun safe is the best protection.
ReplyDeleteMy guns are locked individually and then kept in a safe.
ReplyDeletePeople kill not guns.
This is true, Art. I was assuming he was referring to accidents . . . Keep them locked away. A great uncle of mine used to tell people, "They're loaded" even when they weren't. It kept idiots from aiming the "unloaded" gun . . . My ex always carried his guns with caution. It wasn't until years later when I was out with a new acquaintance that I realized how many dumb-*&^%s there are in the world who will handle a weapon carelessly and put others at risk. That doesn't keep me from enjoying the sport of it.
ReplyDeleteHere they are no resident can bare arms....yet the enjoyment of hunting ranges are a completely different story Kath.
ReplyDeleteRight...always leave a gun with the action open and nobody touches it but the owner. Always point downrange. Finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
ReplyDeleteMy Dad carried a .38 police special, which we have with a locked trigger guard. My weapon of choice is a .22 long barrel with rat shot in it. I don't like carrying the 410 shotgun in the woods, but I don't like running across copperheads, either. I prefer a weapon better than a hoe when I do. My grandfather taught me how to use a .22 rifle between 1948-1959. I still have that rifle, too.
ReplyDeleteHe was a police officer Grammy Kudos to him.
ReplyDeleteJust make sure the carriage is vacant. :)
Rural Minnesota has gun training for young people and most people are careful with guns. we use them for hunting, City people shoot a lot of cows thinking they are deer every year though and a few people.,We eat what we shoot though, not humans
ReplyDeleteIn all, 2,827 kids and teens were killed in the United States during the calendar year that marked the US invasion of Iraq. At last count, the Department of Defense reports 2,497 US soldiers killed in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteThat's just for starters Tee...
totaly agree with you my friend
ReplyDeleteI never have and never shall and the amount of children which are killed by these guns which are not just rifles but are of any kind should never be privy to the public at large. There are more children killed in the USA than any country in the world.....it says something.
ReplyDeleteMass distruction what Residential distruction...I am nor ever shall be for this one as here it's not the case and those that ponder on this 1st amendment...well look at the statistics.
says it all doesn't it
ReplyDeleteyes it does...
ReplyDeleteToo many young people in cities are using guns to hunt each other. Where i live guns are respected as is human life. I have no idea why there is such a difference but it is there.
ReplyDeleteI had to come see the whooping you were going to get for this comment Jack......lmao.....America and their right to bare arms and all..........now with that said...........I agree with you.............ducks and ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuns..........
ReplyDeleteJack:
ReplyDeleteAs an American, I both agree and disagree with you - but then, my perspective is a bit skewed.
I've collected firearms for decades now; to me, they're historic artifacts (plus, they're a lot of fun with which to target-shoot on occasion). That said, I also agree with you - because you didn't say anything which remotely stated "No one should be allowed to own a firearm." You stated that the ownership of firearms should be regulated, just like the operation of an automobile. In that, I completely agree with you.
What most Americans (especially those who've commented here) do not fully understand is that there are plenty of circumstances where a Constitutional right has been legislatively regulated in the interest of public-safety. To wit:
1. The First Amendment guarantees the right of free speech. However, 'free' does not mean 'unfettered'; one may be held accountable under a variety of laws for screaming "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, for example, or to engage in speech by which inflammatory nature causes another party to engage in a hate-crime.
2. The Second Amendment has already been regulated - the 1934 National Firearms Act was written and passed specifically to prevent the legal ownership of machine-guns, which were being used by organized crime during the Great Depression to settle differences between rival gangs - usually with innocent parties caught in the crossfire.
It's clear to me that further regulation of the Second Amendment right to 'bear arms' (Note: It's not 'bare arms' - that leads only to sunburn) is now a necessity.
Unfortunately, we have the extreme Right in this country, along with powerful organizations like the NRA, which are acting in essence against the greater good.
Perhaps someday....
(Thanks for the stance; Jack - I appreciate it!)
Well Jack, I understand your feelings and agree with them. Having been raised in northern Pa. One of the things I learned was how to handle guns at a very young age. In fact, one of the classes I had to take in 7th grade was firearms safety. We had a shooting range under the high school and you had to achieve a high degree of proficiency with a firearm to pass the course.
ReplyDeleteThe very first thing they taught us was, what guns can do in the wrong hands. We were shown movies of people who had been mutilated by such things. Then we learned how to take care of our guns and how to handle them.
Education is the key to it all. Honest people should be able to carry firearms AFTER they have been checked over and over again and dishonest people that carry guns should rot in jail for it.
I used to go with my dad in target hunting up the mountains for deers and alamid as they call it. But that was back in younger days. 22. cal. The reason why partly i knew how to hold guns ... well for hunting. My dad now is 76. tight hugs.
ReplyDeleteGo as your local police I bet they would give you the same surmise as myself Tee.
ReplyDeleteFrankly Will you thrive on some of this. Yet that is ok. I don't believe in the right to bear arms. I shall never change my mind on that. The NRA can host their nest but not within this country Will. As they have never been able.
ReplyDeleteJimi statistics show that when you can walk into the average sports place and find all types of guns - not just hunting ones. I myself do not believe in it. Hunting rifles which are registered I certainly feel are fine. But when one can buy most nearly any type of gun which goes beyond hunting. Personally I have never believed in it Jimi.
ReplyDeleteBack years ago right near where I lived a son's mother was killed just before I got there to return and live by a gang which within NYC hand the creme de la creme of GUNS...if they never had the ability there would have been no death. Education is the key yet in the manner I was educated guns do not nor ever shall reside.
Actually, we're largely in agreement....
ReplyDeleteI believe we are Will....the NRA is a organization that is huge...if they can't sell them in America they sell them to Latin America - go figure.
ReplyDelete